In this episode, recorded above a pub in Leyton, I chat to writer, artist and performer Rob Auton. He’s funny, frank and very honest about what creativity and performing mean to him. Our conversation skips along like an Irish jig as we talk about how amazing it is that elephants exist, why it’s important to make yourself feel small as often as you can and how to deal with bad gigs and rejection.

You can find out more about Rob at www.robauton.co.uk.

And if you haven’t seen him live yet, well, you really should.

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